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SyneRyder 6 minutes ago [-]
Ouch. I've just been building a tool to go through my historic usage. I'm only on the Max 5x plan, and I only use about 40% of my weekly usage allowance. But it looks like even that usage would now cost me $1000/month of API usage under the new plan. That's a 10x price increase.
At least we've got clarity now? But a lot of my value comes from "claude -p" usage, either scheduled tasks while I'm asleep, or responding to incoming emails / voicetexts. Even the email replies will barely fit in $100/month. I'm not going to pay $1000 / month, so I guess it really is time for me to look at the competition and move my programmatic usage to them.
Man, I love the Claude models, and the whole idea of constitutional AI. We built a lot of tools & infrastructure together, but kept a lot of logs as well. I'll be really sad if I mostly have to move on now.
coldtea 4 minutes ago [-]
>responding to incoming emails / voicetexts.
You need an AI for that?
TomGarden 41 minutes ago [-]
This sucks. I use Claude -p over tailscale to code over voice when I’m on the go for accessibility reasons, and most of the time I do the same while at the computer. Running through $200 in API pricing takes no time. Oh well, time to switch providers I guess.
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Kim_Bruning 6 minutes ago [-]
They're definitely aiming their sights at people who automate things. Which is to say: programmers.
Which is interesting, since you'd also think that programmers would be their primary customers.
coldtea 1 minutes ago [-]
You're not a customer of a business when you cost them $2 for each $1 they make out of you. At best you're their VC subsidised target demographic.
I think that this is much better than the previous situation with total lack of clarity on what is allowed and what isn't.
stusmall 37 minutes ago [-]
Does anyone know if this will impact ACP invoking Claude? IE using Claude from zed. I assume not but looking for confirmation
bhu8 32 minutes ago [-]
It would unfortunately impact it. ACP uses Claude SDK and is developed by a third-party.
rickdg 2 hours ago [-]
Guess we're no short of reasons to stick to Codex.
kreidema 32 minutes ago [-]
This is annoying because tools like conductor use the SDK. So this will either be the end of conductor for me or I switch to codex. Interesting dilemma.
LoganDark 2 hours ago [-]
I use `claude -p` interactively -- I understand why they put it under this new umbrella, but having to open the fullscreen interface each time to not be counted as a programmatic tool is a little disappointing.
Currently, if you use claude -p (non interactive mode) in for example CI/CD, you can use your included subscription tokens.
They are now changing it to be:
You get $20/$100/$200 of "credit" that can be used for claude -p. Problem is, once you are out of that it is the normal API rates (outrageously expensive).
At least we've got clarity now? But a lot of my value comes from "claude -p" usage, either scheduled tasks while I'm asleep, or responding to incoming emails / voicetexts. Even the email replies will barely fit in $100/month. I'm not going to pay $1000 / month, so I guess it really is time for me to look at the competition and move my programmatic usage to them.
Man, I love the Claude models, and the whole idea of constitutional AI. We built a lot of tools & infrastructure together, but kept a lot of logs as well. I'll be really sad if I mostly have to move on now.
You need an AI for that?
Which is interesting, since you'd also think that programmers would be their primary customers.
I think that this is much better than the previous situation with total lack of clarity on what is allowed and what isn't.
They are now changing it to be:
You get $20/$100/$200 of "credit" that can be used for claude -p. Problem is, once you are out of that it is the normal API rates (outrageously expensive).